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be spending about $3,000 more. >> harry reid kept the focus on the president's winning campaign message of letting the tax cuts expire on incomes over $250,000 a year. >> the people who have done so well during this difficult time with the economy, the richest of the rich are going to have to pay a little more to solve the financial problems we have this this country. >> this is what the campaign has been all about. congressional democrats are making sure the message is simple, consistent, to the point and easy to consume. recent comments from david plouffe as well as lawmakers left the president's strategy open to interpretation. progressives were concerned the social safety net programs were on the chopping block, but today democrats were unified in their approach. they are all on the same page. the president was reluctant to agree to a deal cutting medicare and medicaid benefits. president obama is seeking $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over ten years and $340 billion in health care savings. the time says the deal would not affect benefits. that's the keyword, benefits. the pres
to in 2011. majority leader harry reid has ruled that out this time and the number two democrat durbin repeated reid's position on sunday. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things, and i believe we should, now, smaller things, played out over the longer term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. >> there's still staff level discussions going on. and, by the way, as much as washington gets caught up in the conventional wisdom of what senators are saying, remember right now the senate are 100 ehechted pundits. the game is between the white house and house republicans for now. at some point the action could move to the senate. but right now it's about the house. it's a possibility at some point folks on capitol hill expect the white house to call another meeting of boehner, mcconnell, reid and pelosi along with the president. at some point this week. though nothing is scheduled. the first major appointment that the president makes will probably come in the next week to ten days. just two candidat
. harry reid, the democratic majority leader, wants to make some changes. debate has to start before a filibuster can begin. he might require any senator wishing to filibuster to stand up there and talk to which republicans are saying if you do that, we the minority are going to burn the place down. senator tom coburn of oklahoma saying, "i think the backlash will be severe. if you take away minority rights because that's what you're doing, you'll destroy this place. if you destroy the place, we'll do what we have to fight back." john cornyn says if democrats change the rules, it will shut down the senate, it's such an abuse of power. you might ask how their threats of a shutdown differ materially from the shutdown senate now when the minority will not allow a majority vote on anything giving them the power to control the senate. we called the two senators and asked specifically what they propose to do if they manage to tweak the filibuster. senator cornyn's office got back to us, but not with an answer. senator coburn did not respond, but he did give a hint of what he m
of taking the economy off the fiscal cliff is harry reid, president obama, he says he wants to compromise. he says there's only two options here, take the economy off the fiscal cliff or do it my way. that doesn't sound like something he's willing to negotiate in good faith. so, listen, republicans want to restore confidence and certainty to this economy. i don't think want to play brinkmanship, the way to do this is through pro-growth tax reform. i'll quote the numbers again. you'll get ten times the amount of revenue by growing the economy, $750 billion versus the measly $68 billion that the president's proposing by punishing success. i think that would work far better. >> and you're saying revenue because by taxing the wealthiest americans, it cuts off what has been referred to as job creators from actually getting americans to work so we have more americans working that are then paying into the tax system. >> thomas, i'm one of those job creators, those small business people. i could have explained to him what's on the minds of job creators, the people that make those investment decis
is joy ann reid, and ana marie cox, washington correspondent for the guardian. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good to be here. >> ana marie, let me start with you. do republicans see the writing on the wall in this tax debate? >> i think they do. obviously some of them do. and i have to say, this is like a very weird place to kind of like stake your claim, like this is what you're going to commit political suicide over. there are actually other conservative ideals that i understand the philosophical principles behind and why you might go to the mat on this one. but this was -- as the president said, this was something that was decided by the election. this is not something that people were wishy-washy on. americans don't mind if you raise taxes on the very wealthy. not only do they not mind but they want this. i think it only makes sense for republicans to at least do what tom cole has said, which is to settle for this now and then if you want to have that fight later, if you want to make your debate points later, go ahead and do that. at this point, the memory so fresh with wh
object, or have mitch mcconnell say i object. harry reid says, oh, well, we move on to the next thing and that's the end of it. >> that's the way they do it. they double track it. they say we'll talk about other business now. what do you think is going to be the way the senate decides this? will it be partisan whether they decide to go to a real filibuster, you go to the mattresses, you stay up all night and force quorum calls over and over again? or they give up on change? what do you think is going to be the politics of this? >> the politics right now is mitch mcconnell is absolutely opposing any change in the rules because he has the advantage of paralyzing the senate with no public accountability. the talking filibuster forces his process to be done before the american people, and i think he realizes the american people are not going to like what they see. and yet that's where it should be. if you don't have the courage of your convictions to stand before the american people and say, i am obstructing this bill and here is why, then, in fact, you should shut up, sit down, and let t
is not part of this problem. so it should not be part of the discussion. harry reid, in fact, has been extremely firm on that. he said i will not be part of discussions that include social security as part of this bargain. so if they stick to that, then they won't be. >> yeah, there's so many moving pieces. susan, today, the president's going to meet with small business owners. friday he's going to montgomery, pennsylvania, to visit a small business that will be impacted. very campaign like stuff. what's he trying to do here? >> yeah, who is he not meeting with this week? that would be congressional -- that would be members of congress, especially those house republicans would be the critical partners on this. so he's trying to take a very different approach than he took in the first term and the early go rounds on this. and that is to build some public support tap on the good feeling from his re-election to give -- as ryan pointed out. there's some democrats including powerful ones like harry reid that say medicare and medicaid have to be off the table. those democrats do not include
, they are not going to be mad of the him for long. joining me now is msnbc's joy reid. how are you? >> i'm doing well. >> so much as i think they will one day come to forgive chris christie, watch how his recent visit to "saturday night live" played with eric bowles. >> let's look at the republican acting like a democrat governor chris christie slobbering a wet kiss on president obama's cheek with days until the election. then this curious appearance on "saturday night live" while jersey still suffers from power outages and massive job losses. >> slobbering wet kiss. do you think i'm underestimating this? >> i think it will take longer to heal. your theory is sound as far as getting relelkted in new jersey. he did the right thing when it comes to remaining governor of new jersey. but i think that the idea that he can be forgiven enough by the base to run for president in 2016 presumes that republicans are going to basically do a punch the base strategy. because look, the part of the party that's about winning elections, the sort of wing that's the political wing, definitely is going to look to chris
change that changed is harry reid says he wants to do something about the filibuster. isn't what i want to do. it feels to me like a tectonic shift saying we need to change this, it has gone too far. >> it really is. harry reid has long defended the perogatives of the senate and of the filibuster even in the face of criticism from his own members, but virtually all of his members now want to do something and he has been infuriated by the way in which mitch mcconnell has carried out, but if you think about t it is a very odd time to do this. the house is under the control. >> you don't get that much. >> of the republicans, so it is not as if the filibuster is the only thing standing in the way >> of the republicans, so it is not as if the filibuster is the only thing standing in the way of democratic program and as norm said, at the beginning of this new congress president obama has a better shot at working with the senate including 6, 8, 10, republicans in using that to put pressure on the house so is this the right time to blow up the senate? >> norm, real quick, do you think we need 6
is sticking by her for now. she's not yet been nominated. harry reid said they believe the committees in charge chaired by john kerry should be in charge of this and not members from other committees like homeland security and intelligence and armed services who are getting involved in this. but as you pointed out, none of the republican senators asking questions chair anything. it's becoming very personal and very puzzling indeed. >> one last sort of puzzling hmt of this to me. i just want your perspective because you have reported on these issues for so long. it seems remarkable to me to have the acting director of the cia personally accompanying susan rice to that meeting today. this is not formal testimony. there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he him
the fiscal cliff to prove his mandate? maybe. joining me now are joy reid, managing editor of the grio and robert reich, former labor secretary and professor at the university of california berkeley. joy, are you feeling sorry for grover norquist yet? >> immensely. he's such a lonelily l man. the senate is gone. enough republican senators have signal they're going to play ball. this is about the house of representatives and really for john boehner, everything changes in a good way for him. if we go off the curb or the cliff on january 1st, he won't be dealing with that tea party caucus and that's the bee in his bonnet that doesn't want to make a deal and by the way, a lot of them are are out the door. so greg's reporting is interesting because it signals that the white house has a public posture in which they say no, we dare not go off the cliff but we're going to get those tax rates increased and the reporting i've done tonight is that there's going to be additional meetings. this was the private version of the public meetings they did last week. now, they've been doing them in privat
. he spoke with speaker boehner and harry reid over the weekend and yet no meeting date is set. what kind of outreach is going on behind the scenes? are you aware, ken, of any other relationships that are being developed at this moment to try to fend off the fiscal cliff? >> yeah. mostly what we're hearing about is that the staff level there are ongoing negotiations between the white house, between harry reid and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans who have publicly said they are open to poe tengts tax increases, revenue increases, but even more so we're seeing this entrenchment over the military spending cuts, the unwilling nness to see that and we're seeing on the democratic side the idea that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if we went over the fiscal cliff and kicked the can down the road to the next congress which will be more favorable from the liberal perspective
reid and speaker john boehner by phone on saturday when you see him this week he will be getting by with a little help from his friends ordinary unelected americans. joining us professor of economics at the university of michigan justin wool fers. great to see you. before i ask for your economic analysis i want to pose one question to my colleagues in new york, that is really about the optics of the president going straight forward and straight to the kisser as it were on the bush tax cuts, not really even talking about the fiscal cliff or the debt limit which looms in february or march. >> as we know there is no real fiscal cliff. it's more of a curve or a mole hill. it's serious and real but not going over the cliff. if there is something of a cliff-like situation, it's playing to the president's advantage. december 31st what he doesn't want, the bush tax cuts for the rich, will be gone. they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not
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majority leader harry reid says raising the debt limit has to be part of any package. john tester a members of the banking committee. newly re-elected. >> thanks, andrea. >> thanks very much for being with us. you're from one of the reddest of red states, you squeaked through. congratulations on that victory. what does it now bring you right into the middle of these negotiations and a tough vote. what are the people back home telling you? >> the people back home have been telling us some time we need to work together as americans, not as democrats or republicans. i think the folks back home are really sick of the hyper partisanship in washington, d.c., which has resulted in really a lot of dysfunction and so especially when it comes to the issue of debt and deficit it's going to take folks working together as americans, put the parties aside, do what's right for the country and move on. >> you're willing to vote for higher taxes some changes in medicare, including eligibility age, tougher means testing. some kind of reduction in benefits for future beneficiaries not the current. >> i tell y
connell is angry about reid's plan to end filibusters on so-called motions to proceed done before any final debate. >> shutting off our right to express the views of our constituents as is being proposed would effectively shut these people out of the process. he will break the rules of the senate in order to change the rules of the senate. >> americans believe congress is broken. once again, the only ones who disagree with mitch mcconnell and republicans in congress. >>> another senator, dianne feinstein of california, set an election-day record after receiving the most votes ever for a u.s. senator. nearly 7.3 million. >>> well, will rick santorum run again in 2016? he tells "the weekly standard" he's, quote, open to it. >>> former president jimmy carter now 88 years old is back in haiti to help rebuild 100 new homes after the devastating earthquake there. it is his second trip there in the past year. >>> and finally, "politico" reports jill kelley, the supporting character in the petraeus scandal, has been stripped of her title as an honorary consul for south korea. she was using the title for p
. they fall to 3-8 on the year. and after his team's seventh straight loss, coach andy reid said after the game, he's not spoken to the eagles' ownership about the future with the team. and you know what, mika? he might as well not. i don't think he's going to be back in philadelphia next year. >> more news from the nfl, lions' defensive tackle ndamukong suh won't be suspended for kicking texans' quarterback matt schaub in the groin during the lions' loss to the texans on thanksgiving day. >> you can tell, he hits the ground, it's just a twitch. >> who does that? oops. following an official review of the incident, the league rules that suh's actions didn't warrant suspension, but they're still considering whether to fine him. schaub told a houston radio station yesterday that he would never want to be suh's teammate saying quote, you don't want a player like that. the stuff he hands for and the type of player he is, that's not houston texan worthy. suh has been fined four times and suspended two games. >>> a big showdown in the tri-state area. the new york knicks traveled across the ea
. and the first piece of legislation i expect that harry reid would bring up in the senate would be to maintain the tax breaks for the bottom 98% and challenge the republicans to say no to that. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you for your time tonight. >>> joining us now is leo gerard. how committed is labor to continuing the campaign for the president's agenda? is this just an extension of what you just went through? >> we're totally committed to this agenda. we had a conference call today where we're looking at what our strategy is going to be. as we said, our folks are ready and willing to start to talk to those senators. we'll knock on doors if we have to. but let me say a couple thing, ed. i think we're having part of the the wrong debate here. this isn't a fiscal cliff. this is a slope. what we need to do is understand that the deficit is a long-term challenge and the best way to reduce the deficit is to get people back to work. right now, the price of money is cheap. you can almost get it for free. we should be investing in more economic development. >> so should this be part of the pa
harry reid said social security should be completely off the table. let's watch the senate leader. >> i've told anyone that will listen, including everyone in the white house, including the president, that i am not going to be part of having social security as part of these talks. >> okay. the president is feeling the pressure to stick to his guns but how much room does he have to reach a compromise before the end of the year? and will the left support one if he does? most importantly, what is the risk to the country of not reaching a deal in the near future? jared bernstein, senior fellow at the senior of budget and policy priorities and an msnbc contributor, vice president of biden's chief economic adviser and joan walsh, editor-at-large of salon. i was trying to get the facts and understand it. the congressional budget office, nonpartisan says if we go off the cliff january 1st which means we let those taxes terminate, the tax rates to go back up again for everybody back up there where they were before this past president was here f we let those cuts go in definition and else places,
in congress to accept tax increases on the wealthy. joy reid is managing editor of she's at least as smart as i am, which is not an accolade, it's a fact, and she's much younger. okay. we found out this weekend, and you know this better than i, i enjoy your report on this, the obama campaign wasn't some kumbaya number. it was an incredibly organized machine. it was real, it was people meeting people, getting points for how many contacts you made with voters. they knew a certain number of contacts led to a probability of people voting. incredibly hands-on, real people with other people. can you turn that machine into something that can get the right kind of deal? >> i think the president spent a year and a half developing a gigantic infrastructure that really came out on election day. and he did that -- >> human. >> through these kinds of direct contacts, but he also had an argument in the campaign that brought those people out. and central to that argument was that we need an economy that works for everyone, that people need to pay their fair share. >> so the key element of that,
're not going to stop the front four of anybody else. >> problematic. hey, with any luck, andy reid will be coaching the packers next year. >> or rex ryan. >> hey, we'll give you rex. you want rex ryan? >> we're happy with our coach. i would not want to be andy reid. >> no. >> he's going to san diego, barnicle tells me. >> he'd be on san diego next year. >> let's talk about what's in politico. you want to do that? >> love to. >> okay. so fiscal cliff is all the talk of washington, obviously. but you guys are writing this morning, your headline about the other fiscal fight, which is, again, the debt ceiling. >> yeah, i think people forget we have essentially three blink moments, sequestration, the debate, and we hit the debt limit probably some time in february. and you have to raise the debt limit unless you take the posture that some folks in the democratic party are recommending and saying just raise it unilaterally, have the president do that. i don't think that's what they want to do right now. in the past, congress has had to raise that debt limit. and as you know, house republ
neither house speaker john a. boehner nor senator majority leader harry reid. in a position to make it happen. >> i think that's right. when the time comes, if we get to the time where a grand bargain of, you know, big deal that would take care of the nation's fiscal challenges for the next 10 or 20 or 30 year, the president will have to be the one who lays it all out and he's argued for a balanced approach, has offered, you know, $3 in spending cuts to every $1 in tax increases. what he campaigned on. he's in a good position to make that case. not -- the moment is not right exactly right now but i think when we get there he's going to be the one that will have to frame the whole thing up. >> we saw the polls yesterday and harold, that if this doesn't work out, people are going to blame and it seems republicans will take some of the blame. i think people are beginning to look for movement from both sides but would be upset if it didn't happen with a republican party. >> it has to work out in some form or another. hopefully it's a long-term solution or patchwork solution so it's a qu
welfare at the expense of none other than the middle class. for more, we go to joy reid, managing either of and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. >> nice to be here. >> earlier we asked you to come up with a figure, because you know i have -- like a dog with a bone on this. we asked you to come up with a figure how much corporate welfare per year is dolled out. what did you find out? >> from the tax policy center, nonpartisan, highly reliable group, $150 billion in tax expenditures that favor corporations in 2012. so, there's your number. >> now, if i'm not mistaken, the amount we actually spend on entitlements that we actually are entitled to because we pay into a system is about half of that? in terms of who's getting the better deal, corporate welfare seems like the better deal and if we're looking for cuts, maybe that's where we should start? >> i think the point is that in both of these cases it's absolutely nonsense, and i know you share this view, to write off all of the social programs as, you know, welfare that just layabouts are -- that 47%, clear nonsense. at the
of taxes. and also stuck on the issue of entitlements. we had harry reid come out and basically say he wasn't open to reforming especially social security. so there's a big question mark about how they're going to move forward. remember, these are sort of their opening bids. presumably there is room for some sort of movement on either side. in terms of getting a deal done by the first of the year, i think there's a lot of pressure on both sides to try to get something done here. you remember the debt ceiling debate. after that sort of knockdown dragout fight, congress had its lowest approval ratings in history. they know they need to get something done. remember, if they don't get something done before the first of the year, it could have serious consequences on the economy. >> i want to ask you both to weigh in on this question. kristen, you do the political angle and neil you give me the nuts and bolts. yesterday john boehner wrote an op-ed calling for the health care law to be part of the negotiations, he wrote in part the president's health care law at the massive, expensive, unworkable
. republicans talking about reforming entitlements. you have harry reid saying he is not open to reforming specifically social security. there may be some wiggle room on some of the other entitlements, but things are off to a rocky start with house speaker john boehner writing an editorial saying he thinks the president's health care plan should be on the table. that is certainly something that both sides will go to the mat over, but i think there's a lot of pressure to get a deal done by the first of the year for the reason that you just cited. because if they don't, this will have a big impact according to a lot of economists on the economy and they just don't want to see that happen and bear the brunt of that. >> understandably so. quickly, the president's plans for today are what? is he there in the house behind you or elsewhere? >> reporter: he is in the house behind me. quiet day at the white house with his traditional thanksgiving dinner with the first family. i'm sure there will be all the fixings on the table, turkey, ham, a lot of different types of pies. yesterday president obam
will admit he or she is wrong. gee reid managing editor of the grio. joy, you first and john jump m in here. seems like if you look at the trial balloons for 2016 you see the two directions of the party. people like rubio, down in florida, who's talking about the seven days of creation again. and then on the other end of the world, you have chris christie talking about how many days it's going to take us to clean up this mess from sandy. once living in the secular real world, off in the ideological, world that the right likes to get into. joy, you're shaking your head. they haven't decided to go sky high into the ideology with the old testament or become a more modern party. >> i think you picked the right person to focus on. marco rubio, be seems to be at the crossroads. there's three wings of the republican party, the evangelical right, business wing of the party and then the sort of joe the plumber wing we call the tea party. they now all sort of rushed into the void created by the economic recession with the business wing deciding they wanted one of their own to be president, mitt romne
a president. the democrats have harry reid. we have mitch mcconnell. get them in the room. and that's what representative governments should be about. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neal can do it, r boehner and obama should be able to do this. >> the last attempt at a grand bargain, it was the politics and brinksmanship and it all went nowhere until a final deal that brought us to this breaking point. do you think that the tax issue has to be solved first before you can get to any defending issues, any of the entitlement issues? >> i think it all has to be on the table. again, i don't want to be said what has to be done first or second. that's for them in the room. but the election is over. president obama won. he won fair and square. we won the house. we won it fair and square. democrats still control the senate. slight edge to the democrats. bottom line, it's over with. let's find a way to get this resolved as much as possible between now and the end of the year. so both the new congress and the president in his second term can start over with a clean slate. we have so many
boehner nor senate majority leader harry reid. senator, when are the democrats going to be talking about the hard decisions? >> alex, that is a very important point and i heard ed rendell refer to it a few minutes ago if your conversation. we all know that there is three parts to solving this problem. there is cutting expenditures, there are entitlements and there are revenue. democrats on the joint select committee that i chaired a year ago, could put serious proposals on that on the table. why we couldn't come to an agreement the republicans refused to put revenue on the table. they do that now, do it responsibly, fairly do it in a real way, then yes, we all know that we have to participate in some tough discussions and are willing to do that. but not until we get that piece that republicans have refused to put on the table so far, which is the revenue, mparticularly o the wealthy. >> governor rendell the senator channeled your name. i will direct this to you. when we talk about the conversation around entitlement reform. i think there's confusion in the american public about what prog
them to. that's colbert territory, that's harry reid, that's what they say. that's nonsense. people take the pledge. the reason why most republicans and a handful of democrats take the pledge is that they don't intend to raise taxes. >> wouldn't it be good if our leaders were not signing pledges like this and actually voted with what their stilts wanted? >> absolutely. yeah. it would be good. it's funny what an election will do. a lot of republicans are seeing the handwriting on the wall instead of the handwriting on a pledge. they'll realize this election in november was not about upholding your pledge to grover norquist. it was about upholding your responsibility to protect the middle class. i'm glad more and more republicans are recognizing the need to join democrats in compromise and consensus. we want deficit reduction that is big, bold, but balanced. as long as more republicans can agree with us on that we're willing to compromise with them and meet them halfway. >> sir, real quickly while i have you, it was announced in the last hour that the president is going to be hosting
or otherwise water down president obama's agenda. democrats have had it. majority leader harry reid has been a senate institutionalist for years and he's changed his mind. now he says he wants to change the rule for filibusters when the new senate convenes in january. president obama has signaled today he's on board, too. filibuster is badly needed. there is a problem, however. the rules changes the democrats have in mind really won't change anything at all. the first idea is to get rid of the fill bust other what's called the motion to proceed. what does that mean? it means a bill could only be filibustered once it's debated on the floor. not when snares are deciding whether to bring it to the floor. there's nothing wrong with this idea but even if adopted it will take 60 votes to pass anything in the senate. democrats' other idea is to force real talking filibusters. if republicans want a filibuster something they have to do it in the open, hold the floor, talk for hours on end, like the old days. supposedly this will shine the light on obstructionism. cause an uproar and cause the gop to
reid said about that. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work out something on the cliff and is six weeks later republicans could pull the same game they did before. >> dana, any indication progress is being made on this or just more roadblocks coming into the picture? >> you know, i was just as a breakfast where bowles and simpson were speaking, and it was a very gloomy and pessimistic affair, and erskine bowles was saying he sees barely eve an one-third possibility of avoiding the fiscal cliff. it appears everybody is just posturing right now. the president is doing it, congressional leaders are doing it. the few who do seem to be willing to compromise are for now the outliers. in fact, more obstacles are being thrown up, and we've got all of ten legislative days left in which to fix this problem. >> well, gloomy and pessimistic are not the words that we want to hear or i think, clarence, that we expected to hear because it seems that before the election there was actually some uniform opinion this absolutely was going to get done by the end of the year. what changed? >> well, it'
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